PARTICIPANTS:
Beacara, Catherine5, Marylou Goldrosen and Sandrine Han
Announcement:
- CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS: Cultural Sensitivity in a Global World: A Handbook for Teachers. The deadline is October 1, 2011. Send copies of abstracts to all three editors: Marjorie Cohee Manifold, mmanifol@indiana.edu Steve Willis, SteveWillis@missouristate.edu Enid Zimmerman, zimmerm@indiana.edu for more information: http://www.inaea.org/post/2011/07/25/CALL-FOR-SUBMISSIONS-Cultural-Sensitivity-in-a-Global-World-A-Handbook-for-Teachers.aspx
DISCUSSION: What are the taboos in art education? Why? And what should we do about it?
Marylou Goldrosen: Taboos come from education itself, which is so conservative and of course to protect kids.
It is limited by funding too. Art education itself is a broad field with alternative education settings
Sandrine Han: yes… I think in different countries there are different taboos
Catherine5: Religion…
Beacara: are there any taboos in art+education? Sex? Violence? Destruction?
Sandrine Han: I think art education is the most open subject in school, we can almost discuss everything, but there are certain things we just cannot talk with students…
Marylou Goldrosen: At one time, the good old boys wouldn’t discuss queer theory or behavior
Marylou Goldrosen: Depends on level of students
Sandrine Han: yes! level of student is very important, can we talk about everything to our undergrad students?
Marylou Goldrosen: When I was in Turkey in 1976, I wrote about guys walking in streets holding hairs, the editors were appalled. This was normal behavior for men then. They couldn’t hold woman’s hand
"holding hands" I mean
Beacara: Our students tell us, that Germany is more free than US
Marylou Goldrosen: Our Social Caucus is much more liberal, depends on what branch of art education
Beacara: I COULD discuss everything, but as long as I’m not sure if I’ll have difficulties I’m careful what I do and say
Catherine5: I find that I have to be very careful on the topics of conversation with even HS students
Marylou Goldrosen: Yes, I had a university student complain about pornography on SL, One of my male students appeared in nude–by accident
Catherine5: I’ve stumbled into places of SL I wouldn’t want to go back to my self & wouldn’t want to expose anyone else to
Marylou Goldrosen: So, we survived by my telling students that I don’t support pornography and the student apologizing
Catherine5: Students understand- but their Parents?
Marylou Goldrosen: Some parents can stick up for you– I attended School Board Meetings
Beacara: so you have to discuss the subject with the parents before
Marylou Goldrosen: YEs & School Board
Sandrine Han: yes… talk with the parents before is very important… they need to be able to trust you and support you!
Beacara: Parents are often content with the fact that teachers are discussing things with their children that they don’t like to do by themselves
Catherine5: my husband is on our school board
Marylou Goldrosen: GREAT!! Interview them about what to do
Sandrine Han: not only they tell us what to do, we need to tell them about how we are doing that, and how they should support teachers!
Catherine5: It’s important
FIELD TRIP:
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Next meeting time: September 3th, 8 AM SL time= 8AM PST, 9AM MST, 10 AM CST, 11 AM EST, Sydney=1:00; Frankfurt=17:00; Taipei=23:00. You are very welcome to join us!
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